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Gentlemen - it was never about the money - I used that
to get the info we wanted out of him. (info
I wanted out of JK). All I asked him
was "How much would it cost for you to get EdK out on parole
tomorrow" JK thinks I am stupid and I prefer to keep it that
way.
I read that you say it is not prudent to change lawyers now Ben.
However, there is no harm with two or three other clear thinking lawyers having
a look and giving another opinion. (and they are not charging us/me) I
will revert with the responses later today. In the meantime let us see if
JK allows me to speak to EdK at 4.30pm today as promised. A few
members have asked me where they can pay money in for E. I gave
them the original account that Miempie gave. xxx
(This is what used
to piss me off with James Marx – he was always the echo of Ben. If Ben said jump, Marx would do or say the
exact same thing. What use was he
really? He would even delete posts of
mine, without even telling me the reason.
I felt that he had absolutely no respect for my intelligence. He pissed me off regularly)
On 21 April 2015 at 19:19, James Marx wrote:
I agree with Ben. JK must get his payment from the state as E is still
in their custody and not on parole as stated by the minister. As far as anyone
is concerned there is no money for legal costs. (and I rest my case about Marx)
On 21 April 2015 at 15:34, Dianne Lang wrote:
“I think he knows his costs are
excessive and that is why he is prepared to negotiate depending on how much
cash we have - which I will tell him we have fuck all but in a really nice
way. Expecting a call from him and from the other lawyer. The
Regshulp Raad is only available before you go to court and not after the event.
Are you satisfied that the money he received was actually from us or did
it come out of Piet's pocket as is assumed by JK”.
Now I realized we were dealing with a
crooked lawyer (asking for money when he had said he would do it for nothing in
exchange for the media coverage he would get) and secondly, we also now knew
that the advocate was not charging us either.
The phone call that JK promised me that EdK would make from his office
never happened. I was right about JK being slack and no one
knew that he was also representing Clive Derby-Lewis at the same time. For sure, EdK did not know that. What kind of lawyer were we dealing
with? Between visits from ANC to my
bedroom, and phoning the presidency daily and writing letters, I was looking
for a good lawyer that could take over from JK.
I did not know how I would do that without EdK’s knowledge but I knew I
would find a way.
Back at the prison, Eugene got to see
the Mama family which got a lot of coverage in the media – this being one of
the conditions why Eugene’s parole had been denied. The Correctional services had not completed
the necessary forms of those victims that Eugene had seen, and JK did not check
his papers before going to court. Eugene
had to spend more months in prison because the Department of Correctional
Services and JK had not done their jobs properly.
Our small, but effective Operation
Free EdK was itching to go, but we decided to wait until the next hearing. If Eugene did not get parole, we were going
to take him out ourselves. Every
eventuality was in place. (No one knew of this – not even Ben). I think if he had known he would have flown to
SA to put masking tape over my mouth.
I was also having financial problems
that came with my health issues during this time, and Jim Hooper sent me some
money to use for myself for medications.
How or who started the rumour that I was piggy backing on Eugene to make
money for myself, who knows? But I had
already enough enemies in PP, JK and TM for any one of them to start this
shit. I spoke to our alternative
lawyer, Conrad Kruger, who never asked for a penny and he took over. We used Eugene’s brother, Vos, as the conduit
to enter into the fray to find out about Eugene. The silence surrounding Eugene was
ominous. Through one of my sources I
heard that persons unknown had removed Eugene from his cell three days before
the Minister of Justice and Correctional Services Michael Masutha Judge withheld
parole for Derby-Lewis but gave Eugene de Kock parole. I
therefore know the outcome of the decision but even this was not shared with
anyone. This is how I knew “The train
has left the station”. It was therefore
no news to me that parole had been granted.
However, when no one heard from
Eugene, and I had contacted TM and JK and they had not heard, my mind did summersaults
faster than my stomach. How easy it
would have been to take him out? Both TM
and JK placated me with “he is out on parole” so there is no need for any more
lobbying. I was frightened for his
safety and a few days later I again contacted JK to find out where exactly
Eugene was and who were the people who had removed him from his cell three days
before he was officially given parole.
He did not know which means that he was not on top of the case. With my urging, he agreed to try to find his
client. Well, what do you know –
straight to the media it went (his payment). He was given parole on the 20 January and yet,
not one person knew where he was. By
March, I was beside myself with worry and got hold of JK to do something about
it immediately. He seemed quite calm
and unperturbed but he did make sure that his name was again in the newspapers.
CRIME & COURTS / 20 March 2015,
07:52am
Louise Flanagan
Johannesburg - Eugene de Kock is out of jail but still in custody. In a
situation reminiscent of apartheid-era activity, De Kock has apparently been
secretly handed over to the security forces for indefinite detention.Now
his lawyer is planning to use a legal weapon not much used since the apartheid
era’s mass detentions – a writ of habeas corpus, which is a demand to the
authorities to produce a missing person in court so that the court can decide
whether his continued detention is legal.Eugene
de Kock's lawyer is still trying to find him. (Great comfort from the lawyer
JK)This week, the Ministry of Justice and Correctional Services, the State
Security Agency and the SAPS would not talk about what has happened to De Kock.His Pretoria lawyer, Julian Knight, doesn’t know where he is but has
received instructions from him, asking for help.“We are instructed by our client that, to date, he has not been released
from custody and has not been handed over to Community Corrections to commence
his parole.
“Our client also advises us that he is currently being held against his
will,” Knight wrote to Minister of Justice and Correctional Services Michael
Masutha on Tuesday.
Knight demanded that De Kock be handed over immediately to the
Department of Correctional Services’ Community Corrections section, which
oversees parolees, given his parole conditions, and that he be released on
parole.
“Should you and your department fail to accede to this request, we hold
instructions to proceed to court on the basis of urgency for a writ of habeas
corpus,” Knight said in his letter.
It is understood that De Kock is being held by security services in a
house on the pretext of an undefined threat against him, with no indication of
a release date.Protective custody normally requires the consent of the person involved.“They said initially that he was in protective custody because of a
so-called plot against him,” Knight told The Star.
“His cell is locked with all his belongings still inside. This is not
indicative of a person released on parole… All the paperwork at the prison
indicates that he is in the care, custody and control of the SAPS; they have
signed responsibility for him.”
While in jail, De Kock has routinely helped the prosecution services
with attempts to resolve cases of those who went missing during the apartheid
era.
De Kock is a former police officer who commanded the apartheid police
hit squad based at Vlakplaas.He was sentenced in October 1996 to two life sentences plus 212 years for
offences including murder.On January 30, Masutha announced at a public briefing that he had
approved De Kock’s parole.This followed various parole applications by De Kock and court action
demanding a decision from the minister. “In the interests of nation building and reconciliation, I have decided
to place Mr De Kock on parole,” Masutha said at the time. “He has requested that the actual date and conditions of his release
should not be made public. I have acceded to this request.” The decision about keeping De Kock’s release details secret appears to
have made the secret handover possible. It is believed he was handed over
before the minister’s announcement on his parole. The SAPS did not respond to requests for comment on whether De Kock was
in its custody.The State Security Agency referred all queries to Correctional Services.The Ministry of Correctional Services would not comment either.“We
have acceded to Mr De Kock’s plea to not give details of his release, so no
media enquiries will be entertained on his release except queries on the
minister’s decision on his parole,” said ministry spokesman Mthunzi Mhaga.
Now there were rumours that I was
using Eugene to feather my own nest. I
was very upset about it. Not one penny
had I taken for myself and it had in fact, not only cost me time over many
years, but had also cost me in postage etc.
And on top of all that, I had a niece of Eugene’s giving me a tough time
via inbox because she SO LOVED pp and “I had vokol te doen met die familie”. I wondered where the hell she had been all
those years. I have a big mouth but a
very sensitive heart so her bashing me and on top of that being accused of
taking money for Eugene for my own use was very soul-destroying for me. I remember crying bucket loads of tears
because of that. It was during one of
these very tearful phone calls that Hannelie told me about Conrad Kruger. I even remember that Hannelie gave me some
airtime and that we talked while I was in hospital in Bloemfontein. Three months after his release on parole, no
one had heard from Eugene, not even his brother, Vos.
Conrad said he would take on the case
and represent Vos, and in that way, find where Eugene was without JK getting
his cock in a knot. Of course, I was
also upset about being accused of taking money meant for Eugene.
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